Can you handle this? There is a song we sing "Holy,Holy,Holy,Lord God almighty----God in three persons blessed trinity."
That is the original version but I have heard us sing God in one person blessed unity. Is this true? Is there a difference between 'Apostolic oneness' and Apostolic Unity'.
Just an aside-Did you know that University literally means Unity in diversity?
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Robert A. Stewart
To the Chief Elder and the beloved Saints,
ReplyDeleteThe subject of the Oneness of God vs. the Trinity has been pushed aside by many of us Apostolics for many years, hinged upon the sometimes false notion that we know what we’ve got, yet many of us find ourselves unable to adequately defend the fundamentals of our belief system. It is from this backdrop that I would suggest that we undertake a more in-depth look at the doctrine of Monotheism; the arguments presented in the article should evoke some new interest as I have always thought that we have not indoctrinated our people enough on the subject hence when we are engaged in discussions of sort we remain silent.
I will be preparing and presenting my arguments soon.
Richard
I just love to sing the song "Holy! Holy! Holy!" so when I come to the end of the verse, I sing...."God in His mercy, blessed Holy Ghost"
ReplyDeleteThe fight is fixed. "Fight the good fight of faith".
Beldene
Good Day Doc:
ReplyDeleteI saw the article and funny enough over the week-end I was reading “A History of Christian Thought…From its Judaic and Hellenistic origins to Existentialism” by Paul Tillich which outlined the development of the different doctrines.
To adequately deal with it from the root up we would have to go back to Plato, Aristotle, Tertullian and Augustine; deal the two different natures; the Logos doctrine etc.
This is a topic I think that should be dealt with extensively in several consecutive Bible study sessions; it is too wide and complex to be treated in a session or casually.
One thing for sure though how we (Christians) came to think the way we do was determined by “men” long ago based on the number of heresies that had to be confronted and defeated in the past e.g. Arianism, Gnosticism, Montanistism……..
Kirk Barham
King Rich-
ReplyDeleteThis is the sort of honest and argument stimulating response I expect from seekers of truth. I find that as a church we shy away from 'controversial' topics, and I wonder why. However,the more I listen to some of us is the more I assume I figure why. Firstly we are afraid of contending ideas because they may disturb the comfortable status quo. Secondly we tend to argue from a position of I know I am right and you are wrong, hence we become personal instead of factual. Thirdly,we prefer the "ethereal" (This is my word for the kind of things that seems to come from somewhere in outer space so can only be understood by special people with direct connection to the super and supra natural.) We have not yet learned the art of disagreeing to agree. In plain language we do not argue we quarrel. The only way to get out of this is through training and development.
I must admit that I get stumped sometimes on questions surrounding the Godhead. When I just got saved it was popular but I believe wrongly used. This is not the sort of message that one should preach to the unbeliever. They need to hear about the cross and the love of God. This should be properly taught to new converts, and be taught regular as a refresher course for all of us.
Robert Stewart
This is a part of our dilemma as oneness apostolic. The bible and most of our hymns were written by Trinitarians. You gave me a good laugh with your version. I wonder how many other versions are out there. It reminds me of the song which says "no need to be blue". One Bishop use to sing do-be-do-be-do until the time of his death.
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